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so i have been saving up to order a pair of melodia's for about a while now. i've been daydreaming about dancing in a pair of sash pants and pinching my pennies.
last week, i was ready to order. i got on the website and went to add to cart... i was forwarded to a page stating that they didn't have the requested item in my size. i tried every single color in every single style in my size on the website. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE ITEM IN MY SIZE! (M)
i was pissed! so i called their store! the lady tells me, "oh yeah we're out of a lot of the LARGER sizes in most of our styles right now but we're launching a new line at the end of the week!"
(LARGER SIZES?!!)
whatever.
anyway, i go back to the site this weekend to check out the "new line"... it's not posted.
as of today, guess what... IT'S STILL NOT POSTED.
i'm so not ordering from melodia designs.
ever.
the end.
last week, i was ready to order. i got on the website and went to add to cart... i was forwarded to a page stating that they didn't have the requested item in my size. i tried every single color in every single style in my size on the website. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE ITEM IN MY SIZE! (M)
i was pissed! so i called their store! the lady tells me, "oh yeah we're out of a lot of the LARGER sizes in most of our styles right now but we're launching a new line at the end of the week!"
(LARGER SIZES?!!)
whatever.
anyway, i go back to the site this weekend to check out the "new line"... it's not posted.
as of today, guess what... IT'S STILL NOT POSTED.
i'm so not ordering from melodia designs.
ever.
the end.
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 7:25 AMi guess i should say also that if anyone knows of any type of practice pants that would be comparable to melodia's, please do share because......
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 8:42 AMWhen did "medium" become a "larger size"? I am an L, what the heck does that make me??
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 9:02 AMall i have to say is that is SO l.a. of them to be saying something like that to a costumer. gross. just because my 5'9'' frame is not a drastically underweight sized 4 with dis-proportionately short legs (i was ordering a M34)... FEHK YOOOOU LADY... that's what i felt like saying but i tried to be nice. :3
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 9:16 AMooooooooooooo sharifwear... me likey! thanks helen :)
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 5:31 AMDo you know if they have a sizing chart anywhere on their page?
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 8:46 AMI've been hearing bad things about the new management and that the quality of the product has gone down. I haven't ordered from them recently so can't vouch for that myself but I do agree that the way they have their website set up (i.e. you can't see what's available) is really not user-friendly.
I know that Desert Dancer makes flare pants in a similar style; I've never purchased any so I don't know how they compare but I do know they're fairly popular.
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 9:40 AMI love Desert Dancer flairs. I've bought six pairs from them over the last 3 years, and have plans for more. -
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 8:17 AMDesert Dancer pants are great!
I think its insane to spend 85 dollars on a pair of melodias--- I got up to having like 8 pairs... Now that I dance primarily ATS I dance in skirts now.... thankfully! ;)
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 1:52 PMI also have a number of Desert Dancer flares and very happy with them. But I ordered a few years ago, and in the meantime the company changed hands, so I have no experience with the new owner, but haven't heard anything bad about her, and sounds like the original owner researched her well and worked together with her awhile, so probably just fine. Very good about things like tweaking the measurements for my own proportions, good communication, etc. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 7:25 AMI've bought from them both with the original owner and since the new one took over, and I haven't seen any drop in the quality.
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Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:46 AMDesert dancer is a GEM! they were my first pair of flare pants, and i actually prefer that waistband to the melodia waistband.
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 8:55 AMI have been looking at their tops and they haven't had anything available in months! A dancer I met recently had one and I tried it on, they are tiny! I'm about a medium or a 6-8 on top and the tops are supposed to be one size fits all. -
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 9:19 AMthat is CRAP CRAP CRAP!
BOO MELODIA! i hate that. there are all types of beautiful female bodies in the world and they should take care of us all! we are not all one teeny tiny size.... BOOOOO!
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 12:46 PMInteresting discussion, I just got my pair of XL Melophonix garter stripes, the ONLY size left was XL a friend was with me when ordering, could have used a small and nothing was left, go figure. It is unsettling when a company gets so popular and large that they can't handle the business, we all expect great service and when they fail to meet our expectations, it is bad for us all!
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Fri, November 13, 2009 - 3:02 AMthe twist tops are ridiculously small and give me neck and backache if I wear the one I bought. Waste of money!!
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 9:33 AMI've heard Geisha Moth does custom orders. -
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 9:55 AMThey're not like the melodia pants, but for a gorgeous pair of dance pants, try Kathleen Crowley's Sampants. I just got a pair to wear with my pirate costume for Halloween and they are GORGEOUS!!! And if you really want to splurge, try a pair of her Fluffie Rufflie Dance Pants. I don't think she's taking custom orders for the fufflies right now, but when she starts them again, they're my next big purchase.
Sampants
www.etsy.com/view_listing.php
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 10:43 AMI guess I can toot my own horn and say that if people are looking for alternatives, I do custom orders as well; I've made custom Endless Wave pants, I've made several pairs of faux-lodias for myself and I currently have this pair of awesome fluffy pants pants for sale:
people.tribe.net/cb741971-...9ccb3b9959
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 10:57 AMThose pants are awesome!
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 11:15 AMwow those are awesome.... i may contact you for a custom order. do you have other photos of things you've made? -
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 7:18 PMI have photos of my other dance costumes in my gallery, and I have an online store here: magpie.sarcasm-hime.net
My main site (costuming, dance, illustration, jewellery/accessories) is sarcasm-hime.net
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 11:05 AMi had a similiar experience with a local goth store i go in and ask hey i am looking for some leopard shorts or maybe plaid, what does this ASSHOLE say? he looks at me up and down and says "ugh.. we only have them size small" WTF DOES THAT MEAN? i didnt even tell him my size, and what if i was going to buy a present? im tired of people making clothes that dont fit the average chick, no one i know is a size small! -
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Wed, November 4, 2009 - 11:55 AMi woulda thrown up on his shoes. :(
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 6:18 AMYou should check out the "Anyone else put off by Melodia Designs these days" thread on the official Melodia tribe.
tribes.tribe.net/melodiade...5836e85187
Note that no one from Melodia Designs has responded to this thread on their OFFICIAL Tribe, despite it being started on Sept. 8th.
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 7:03 AMDamn, that's a shame...Melo's seemed to have a pretty good reputation for quite some time, but if they're not attending to their customers, then I'd say they're likely on their way out.
I've gotten a few pairs of flares and some harem pants from this site...very nice, alot of styles and the prices can't be beat! The flares do tend to run long, but everything runs long on my lil 5'2" self. Great customer service, too...received my items in the time they said and they usually always have some of their stuff on sale, too.
www.thebellydanceshop.com/products.php
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 8:18 AMyeah i like that site a lot, too. i ordered a pair of harem pants from them and i LOVE them! i did get a huge hole in the leg after only several times wearing them though... i seem to have crappy luck with harem pants holding up. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 9:04 AMhaha...ye, I ended up with a tear in the leg seam on one of my pairs of harem pants, too...but it was pretty much because they're so damn comfortable, i wear them all the freakin' time!!! The good thing about that, tho, is that with the blousiness of the pants, repairs aren't so obvious, so I fixed them and they still look great! -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 9:22 AMI HIGHLY recommend Geisha Moth not only for her amazing range of items, quality, and style, but she's also devoted to her customers AND pretty much the hardest working women in the bellydance business. Her tribe has more posts and activity than I can keep up with. You absolutely NOT be ignored and overlooked.
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 9:26 AM^^^ Just saw Maral's post. She's another AMAZING seamstress. Can make anything. Seriously. You guys have no idea.
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 11:05 AMmay i just mention flying skirts?
www.flyingskirts.com/catalog...oi.shtml
www.flyingskirts.com/catalog...ab.shtml
www.flyingskirts.com/catalog...lx.shtml
ive been wearing gwen's stuff for years and the quality cant be beat. the pants are beautiful, comfy, billowy, beautifully made and gwen is always great to work with.
AAAANNNDDDD......
you should check out my friend joy's things as well:
tribes.tribe.net/gypsyredtribalthreads
www.etsy.com/shop/GypsyRedTribalThread
she takes custom orders and can pretty much make anything your heart desires. such a talented lady!
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 1:37 PMyeah i wear mine all the time too! that's probably how mine ripped, but as you say, it was easy to mend... i can't even tell where the tear was actually. :)
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 9:27 AMThis is what happens when small time and creative becomes big time production crap. when people stop enjoying their work, and when it becomes "work" there is no point in going forward any more. Its no longer art.
People keep telling me to hire an assistant. and I keep telling them to go suck a fat one. (oh goodness, I'm such a redneck!)
People dont mind waiting a few weeks for a custom item, and those items that I do have pre-made are always of the highest quality and made with pure enjoyment and love (and I feel that this conveys into how the items feel while on the body... its woo woo stuff... but ya)
I am keeping my prices affordable without making them insanely cheap to where I dont make any money. (I see this sooooo often, it makes me sad)
I use the money from my etsy shop and regular website to pay for vet bills, feed and other care for my rescue horses. I'm happy when I have extra left over so I can buy goodies for myself...
When the Customer Service takes a nose dive, its time to move on. But people are going to still buy from her because she's "melodia" kinda sad... -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 11:16 AMYou should see the monsterloons Angelia made for me with infinite patience - they are SO gorgeous.
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 1:27 PMI haven't had much luck with the site as well, so I am taking a break for awhile and HOPEFULLY, things will be better.
I am a size 5 and I tried to get a pair of flairs from a different online and vendor. They referred me to another site because as the email stated, 'their clothes are for petite women and they do not have plans to cater to larger sizes'. -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 1:49 PMI hope I can toot my own horn here. I cater to all sizes, small to plus sizes. No Etsy store yet. But you can see my work in the photo section under my profile. I will be at Tribal Fusion Fair in Dec. If I can help anyone, I would be happy to. Thanks -
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Thu, November 5, 2009 - 6:10 PMWe love our pants from By Ro Dancewear and By Ro Designs. Check out our pics! Ro makes us look super fabulous and we get lots of complements. Because we are a youth troupe Ro does have to make special orders for us but she doesn't seem to mind and she is always very helpful. Best of all the pants are very comfortable! Can't wait to see the new designs!!!
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Sun, November 8, 2009 - 7:07 AMWait, what??? A size 5 is 'large'??? Since when??? Are they making clothes for munchkins or something? I'm a size 3-5 and I still occasionally get the 'oh, I HATE you...you're so tiny!' So, I guess these people would consider a size 7-9 a plus size? Some seriously fucked up people in this world!!! -
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Sat, November 14, 2009 - 5:42 PMI didn't get what they meant either so I emailed the owner back. In her second email she flat outright stated that her S is for 4-6 but really fits a size 2-3 and that they don't carry anything above a M. So what size does the small fit if the M really fits a 2-3?
I still get people who make fun of my size and say things like 'it must be so hard to find clothes and I wish I was your size". There is no right body type and there is no perfect size. All women deserve to look foxy in their clothes. Screw the size restrictions. -
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Sat, November 14, 2009 - 5:55 PM"There is no right body type and there is no perfect size. All women deserve to look foxy in their clothes."
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Sat, November 14, 2009 - 6:44 PMI stole that from my mother who started belly dancing at 68 years old and she is size 20. When she leaves the house, she says 'I know I look foxy - end of story'. She taught all 6 of us girls that beauty comes in all different packages. -
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Sat, November 14, 2009 - 9:15 PMThat's a good momma right there. Started dancing at 68? And my 48-year-old mother thinks it's too late to start now...yeah, right. :-P That's what I love about the bellydance community, man. Such strong, feisty ladies we have around us to set the best example. -
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Sun, November 15, 2009 - 10:27 AMMy mother's belly dance troupe is called the 'Old Bitties"-they are all over the age of 60 and they are widowers. 4 of the 6 women including my mother, uses a cane or walker. Her favorite designer is shimmy sista because she caters to larger women.
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Sun, November 15, 2009 - 3:22 PMI started at 40...you're never too old to have fun and feel good about yourself...and hey, it definitely keeps you in great shape, no matter what size you are! I looooooves my dancing!!! It's the only real exercise that I've ever been able to stick with and not get completely bored!
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Sat, November 7, 2009 - 8:36 AMI love my pants from Arwen's Apparel. arwensapparel.com -
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Sun, November 8, 2009 - 8:03 AMOh god. I really hope they don't ship to the UK, or my bank account is in serious trouble! Beautiful things! -
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 2:13 AMDammit. She emailed me back. Arwen's Apparel ship to the UK AND she sounds really lovely. I need a second job. -
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 4:43 PMI have 3 sets of her skirts and gypsy tops in the cotton. Just when I think I have enough, she comes out with a new colour.
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 4:42 PMArwen is a wonderful person. Get that 2nd job, her stuff is worth it.
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Sun, November 8, 2009 - 2:00 PMi have a pair of desert dancer flare pants
www.desertdancer.com
and they are great
i'm going to have to get another pair of them now because i accidentally cut them, but you dont feel like it's something you have to get a mortgage for =p
try desertdancer
i also see now she makes ruffle skirts like black sheep/wild card belly dance wear :)
squeeee
alot of the bigger name designers are doing this whole "we can't accomodate large sizes because you dudes just cost too much"
well really since when is a medium a large size
BUT we have to have SOMETHING to wear
and if the big names aren't going to do it, and just make loads and loads of XS and S size clothes, then we'll take our money elsewhere, even if it's to a "knock off"
and the thing about "knock offs" is they are usually just as well made. with just as much time and effort and conscience and love for the garment as the bigger names/prices. the difference is, i can afford them and actually ENJOY them, rather than just stare at other people wearing them.
my rant for the day. =p
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 8:20 AMoh and by the way--medium is NOT a larger size. Hopefully she was just referring to the other half of their available sizes ( S/XS vs. M/L) -
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 11:22 AMas a bigger woman, it's kind of funny how much people are getting rankled by being called a "larger" size. technically, larger means bigger than something else. if you're a size 0 and someone else is a size 1, the 1 would be the larger size.
i'm only pointing out this bit of semantics to show how fruitless it is to categorize some of us as "normal sized" (and therefore deserving of beautiful clothing) and others of us as "larger sized" (and therefore deserving to be left in the cold). chances are we're all larger than someone else and we all deserve beautiful pants to dance in. so let's leave this discussion of who's actually larger and who's actually not out of it. -
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 10:29 PMI don't think anyone is really getting upset over being called a 'larger' size, but that we're just baffled at what is being considered to be a larger size...there are beautiful and fabulous dancers of all sizes and it's not fair for us tiny women to be the only ones able to have the beautiful, fabulous clothes to go along with it...I don't believe that there is a 'normal' size...maybe there is an 'average' size, but even that is pretty open for interpretation.
That being said, it's really no easier to be on the small end of the spectrum, either...even tiny women have different body shapes and the main one I have always had to endure is my height...I'm 5'2" and I can never get anything that's not waaaay too long! Sure, you can hem some things with no problem and I was even able to just cut off a couple pairs of flares that I got, since the fabric doesn't ravel and most are made to look lettuce edged, anyhow...but when it comes to the multi-yard skirts, I'm pretty much out of luck...I end up having to roll the waistline so much that I look like I've got a swimmy float around my waist! Yes, those can be corrected, too...but I'm not enough of a seamstress to do it myself and unless I do get one custom made (which as a single mother, I generally can't afford), I either end up tripping over them or looking like a little girl trying to wear her mother's clothes!
Sooo, I can sympathise with having a problem finding clothes that fit...whether they're too long or too short, not big enough or small enough in the chest/shoulders/waist/butt...whatever...there's always something and I think all of us reserve the right to bitch about it! -
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 4:25 AMThank you for bringing this up! I agree with you. I'm about 5'9", which means I'm on the tall side, but I weigh so little that I'm very small for my height. Which sounds like a blessing -- you know, fast metabolism and all that -- but I'm actually technically underweight and can't seem to gain enough wait to bring myself to a normal build. Bellydance has given me such an appreciation for women with a fuller figure that I find myself wishing I weighed more so I could fill out the costumes better and dance with more "oomph." :-P As it is, I look bony when I dance. And the costuming is many times too short (I have long legs as compared to my rather short torso) or too large to fit around my waist like it should, particularly anything with an elastic band, and I fear shimmies in the choreography and might send my skirts and belts slithering down to the floor.
Granted, most of the costumers out there make garments for my size and end up calling everything else "the larger stuff" almost diminutively. But I'm here to tell you, straight from the heart, that I wish I was one of the "larger sizes." <3
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 6:51 AMi wasn't really upset with what she said, it was the way she said it that bothered me... and the fact that she made such a statement at all.
rather than saying, "oh we are out of most of our stock right now"...?
anyway, i'm over it... i'm glad to NOT be a melodia designs costumer.
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 11:25 AMJust try to be sure with 'knockoffs' that the money is going to the right people, i.e. not sweatshops in Asia. Small designers get ripped off this way; it's a double-edged sword. Customers want low prices, but manufacturing in North America is expensive because the people doing the work need to get paid at least minimum wage. Sometimes indie designers feel they have no choice but to have things manufactured overseas in order to keep their prices affordable, but then the overseas manufacturer will actually produce copies and sell them for cut-rate prices.
I prefer to support independent designers so that I know my money is going to the actual artisan, and encourage people to remember that time is money - the artisan making the item has to pay themselves a decent hourly wage, PLUS small companies usually cannot afford to buy fabric in bulk directly from manufacturers so fabric costs are high too. -
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 3:18 PMprecisely why i suggested desertdancer
she makes the pants by hand, and ships fast
plus she makes them in a huge variety of sizes, without making you feel bad for being "omgz large n junk lolololollllzzzz"
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Sat, November 14, 2009 - 10:12 AMwhats affordable about $80 for a pair of dance pants. I just ordered 2 pairs from Melodia because I thouhght they were high quality and made by the designer, not some chinese sweat shop. Sigh, I hope they are worth it when they finally get here. -
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Sat, November 14, 2009 - 4:41 PMNot to be mercenary, but I have a pair of size LX flare pants up now, which should fit a 20-22, in black lycra, and a set in velveteen snakeskin print. And I can take custom orders for even larger pants.
I have some wine velveteen glitter dot fabric I'd love to make into something amazing, but I don't want to cut it unless it has a good home to go to. That with some sheer black layered ruffles at the hip would be incredible. -
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Sun, November 15, 2009 - 9:36 AM"Not to be mercenary, but"
That's not mercenary, that's free market capitalism...
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Tue, November 17, 2009 - 8:25 PMClearly in this case you're paying for the name. I'm sure they started as all handmade but as demand grew things changed.
I don't know anything about Melodia's profit margin or costs so I try not to criticize too much, since I get the 'your prices are too high" complaint myself sometimes yet I know I'm often *under*pricing my stuff. In this case, however, if the quality has indeed gone down while prices stay the same/go up then I guess we just vote with our wallets and go elsewhere.
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