** Before I say anything, I just want to start out by noting that I am NOT bashing on anyone here. My purpose of posting this all, is to try and get help, not cause drama or problems. So, with that being said:
As of today, my very first 'Flying Skirts', backless ATS style choli arrived. The tag boasts that it can be worn without a bra.
And, I have to disagree. For myself at least.
I am a 36 DD -- and this choli can NOT be worn without a bra. No. Sorry. And so... this is a problem for me. This choli is very, very nice... I am very impressed with it's construction and the fabric is great. But, I cannot wear it without a bra, and I don't see how any larger chested dancer could, either.
Such a never ending battle.... *SIGH*
So now I'm wondering... what can I do to make this work? Anyone have any suggestions?? I put a picture up in the gallery of how it looks over my bra. And the thing is... I NEED that bra support, so, maybe someone here can help me out??
Help?? This all just seems all so .... unfair to me. I don't think I should have to wear a choli with a back just because I have a larger chest. There has to be a way to modify this -- even with this choli I just got. Seems like such a shame to me.
As of today, my very first 'Flying Skirts', backless ATS style choli arrived. The tag boasts that it can be worn without a bra.
And, I have to disagree. For myself at least.
I am a 36 DD -- and this choli can NOT be worn without a bra. No. Sorry. And so... this is a problem for me. This choli is very, very nice... I am very impressed with it's construction and the fabric is great. But, I cannot wear it without a bra, and I don't see how any larger chested dancer could, either.
Such a never ending battle.... *SIGH*
So now I'm wondering... what can I do to make this work? Anyone have any suggestions?? I put a picture up in the gallery of how it looks over my bra. And the thing is... I NEED that bra support, so, maybe someone here can help me out??
Help?? This all just seems all so .... unfair to me. I don't think I should have to wear a choli with a back just because I have a larger chest. There has to be a way to modify this -- even with this choli I just got. Seems like such a shame to me.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sat, July 7, 2007 - 3:23 PMHere's what I do....
cut the long sleeves off to about a 3/4 length, and hem the sleeves. Take the removed pieces from the sleeves, and sew them like a wider band across the back. Sew it under the ties, leaving the ties to still be functional but tieing over the new added piece. Looks the same except the back ties appear to be wider and the bra is covered. I have to slip the choli on over my head, but that's minor issue for me. Wearing a bra is an absolute must with these DD's+.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sat, July 7, 2007 - 3:29 PMHey Amazon.... the choli I have is short sleeved. So I have nothing to cut :(
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Sat, July 7, 2007 - 3:31 PMActually... you just gave me an idea. Maybe I can get some fabric that is kind of the same, and sew my OWN ties on... ones that cover the back. Hmm..... *thinking* .... -
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sun, July 22, 2007 - 4:45 PMI always wear a bra under my cholis as I definitely need the support. The only time I might not, is if I am wearing my coin bra over the top of the choli as that provides support usually. I do usually still wear a bra under that tho!
What I did was buy an inexpensive bra that gives me a medium amount of support with the thinnest straps I could find. I then snip the straps off from where they attach to the back strap and sew them back on closer to my underarms, ensuring they are hidden by the back of the choli. If the back strap is still too chunky, I would run it in a bit before attaching the straps. I then sew a thin, flat bit of elastic between the two shoulder straps around the same place that the top tie of open backed cholis usually sit as this elastic keeps the straps from slipping off my shoulder. This gives me enough support and only a few thin straps are visible but the are generally hidden by the choli ties anyway! Hope this helps! Sophie -
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Fri, August 17, 2007 - 1:30 PMDid anyone watch American Inventor this last season? The runner-up was Elaine Cato, who designed a 6-in-1 backless bra that could be used by small framed women with a C cup and above. Although she didn't win the prize, Maidenform took a liking to her design and they may be working on it right now. So, there may still be hope for those of us who hate to sew, don't have time, or would just rather buy something off the shelf. -
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Fri, August 17, 2007 - 3:00 PMokay an almost sleazey idea. i was stumbiling through the fredricks of hollywood site not long ago and they have all sorts of backless bras out now. so um maybe go check them out. not sure if any of them would work as i'v enever tryed them, but if they aren't to spendy it might be worth a look see. give it a dry run durring a home dance session or something like that.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Mon, August 20, 2007 - 11:32 AMI haven't tried the backless ones, but I have used the Frederick's "Hollywood X-Treme" strapless for a bra base, and they're fantastic. Firm, molded cups, and if you don't cut the backstrap off, it's covered with sticky elasticy stuff on the inside, to help it stay up. (I just covered the outside with stretch velvet, since I didn't need massive support with this particular bra.)
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Tue, April 29, 2008 - 10:56 AMthey also have clear, changeable strap bras....but GOOD luck finding good support.
I understand your problem. Right there with you.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sat, July 7, 2007 - 4:15 PMI would suggest kind of what Amazon did...
Just cut wider ties, attach and viola? because you are wearing a black bra it dosn't look too bad, but prehaps wider straps might help. You could also consider doing a clasp instead of a tie [like hook and eyes] so that the width stays the right width. If that makes sense.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sat, July 7, 2007 - 4:35 PMYeah, I never quite buy the "you can wear it w/o a bra". I mean, you *can* wear it, and it will probably be supportive, but it's just not the same. You've got a few options that don't involve re-designing the choli:
1) Sew in a bra. Put on a sacrificial bra, then put on the choli. Pin the choli to the bra at the shoulder seams and side seams (so you have a place to hide the stitches. Take it all off. Sew the bra in at those points. Cut off the excess straps. You may want to do some additional stitches along the bottom band and cleavage to keep the choli from shiftying and exposing the bra. I find this works best w/ a molded cup bra (just easier to do all the sewing). This is my favorite solution, since it's just so comfortable and easy to wear.
2) Cover the back strap of a strapless bra, alla a regular tribal bra (you know, the big ol' black halter-like tie). I have found that cholis are supportive enough to keep the bra up and in place w/o any shoulder straps, and, from the back, it resembles what FCBD looks like from behind anyway (two back ties). For some added drama, decorate the top of the bra w/ some ribbons, trim, coins, etc. and let it poke through for a little layered look.
3) Like #1, only take an inexpensive, sleevless choli and sew the bra in. Then wear that choli under all your others. Basically the exact same thing, only now you have a new "bra" and don't have to cut up a new bra every time you buy a new choli.
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Sat, July 7, 2007 - 4:37 PMOh, another note for #2. You could also turn the bra into a halter. Again, you'll see an extra tie in back, but it will look like FCBD and you'll be backless. But I can stand wearing halters, so I forget to mention it.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sat, July 7, 2007 - 5:00 PMyeah... I am a 36/38 DD and definitely cannot wear one alone. Droopage, anyone? :)
I definitely wear a plunge bra under it, and I find that it stays well hidden.
I've also heard some ladies suggest wearing two at a time for double support, but I have not tried it myself. I always have to have a bra on... always...
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sat, July 7, 2007 - 5:25 PMHi there,
I am a C cup and will generally wear a bra under my choli if I am not wearing a coin bra over the top.
I have a couple of bras that have convertible and clear straps plus a clear back section that works particulary well underneath the choli - depending on the choli (I have a few bought ones from different sellers plus my own) I may convert the straps to a halter.
With my troupe some of the ladies are quite well endowed and have made or adapted cholis with a wide elastic section across the opening that connects with hook and eyes to cover a broader backed bra but still has the look of open backed bra.
Hope that helps
Fee
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sat, July 7, 2007 - 5:38 PMI've gotta say the the FCBD/Folkwear Tribal Dancer choli pattern does a decent job of holding mine (40D+) in place, if you ever decide to make one. It has a substantial band around the ribcage, and the upper ties hold everything up much like a halter bathing suit top. Also I believe Flying Skirts cholis are made from stretchy fabric(?), which has too much give and bounce. As Angel DeMort pointed out in an earlier choli thread, stretchy cholis won't hold a large pair in place even though they work OK for smaller breasted women. -
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Mon, July 9, 2007 - 10:24 PMThat's good to know since I just bought the pattern! I guess I made a good choice then. And you're right about the stretchy fabric. I won't wear any stretch velvet tops unless I can fit a bra under it, even if it only stretches width-wise. It just doesn't give proper support and can feel rather indecent for performances. It's something to keep in mind when buying any stretch velvet tops with a larger bust.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sat, July 7, 2007 - 5:41 PMOh boy, can I relate! I not only need help for my 42 DDD, but coverge for a tummy roll. I made the Annabella's choli, but although it fit, and was comfy, no way could I use it braless so I need to do some modifying. I will try some of the ideas here and keep working on this problem. I do like the sewn in bra idea, but when the bras that fit and support you cost $62 each, it's hard to sacrifice one.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sat, July 7, 2007 - 7:05 PM<<I do like the sewn in bra idea, but when the bras that fit and support you cost $62 each, it's hard to sacrifice one. >>
But, when the elastic in the straps goes, a slide breaks, etc, don't throw it out. You're going to cut all those straps off anyway. And the choli does give some support, so you might just be able to get away with a cheap bra (if such a thing truly exists...). Again, if the straps don't quite fit, it won't matter much. -
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Sat, July 7, 2007 - 9:21 PMThat's very true, they stretch out and have to be replaced.. The cups are still good even though the sides are gone. The perfect thing to sew in cholis. I do plan to work on Annabella's choli, and a non stretch version.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sat, July 7, 2007 - 11:11 PMI know what you mean, Amy. Because, as of about 10 minutes ago... I figured it out. I CREATED a bra that could be worn under a backless choli (specifically, the ones from Flying Skirts) .... and, I needed to kill 2 bras to do it. Neither of which were cheap because I use good bras. Good bras = good quality, good support, good fit, no questions asked.
And with 2 bras... I literally created a "Franken-Bra" .... (I should copyright that!!) .... that I can wear from choli to choli, instead only with one because it's sewn to it.
When I perfect this, I will put up some instructions. Maybe I can finally help others like myself. I warn you all now though, you will need ONE good bra you swear by, and one not so wonderful one, with wire and boning on the sides.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sun, July 8, 2007 - 6:18 AMThe pics look very promising. I'll be waiting for instructions! -
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Sun, July 8, 2007 - 9:27 AMOK!!! I made a visual tutorial... let's see if you can see what I did with this:
euphraxia.com/images/tutorial.jpg
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Sun, July 8, 2007 - 9:35 AMI think the biggest thing to remember when doing this sort of thing... when it comes to QUALITY of fit, any good bra store will tell you, 90% of the support comes from the BAND not the straps. I myself am a 36 C... my roommate was... a little heftier and she used to give all the girls lessons about their bra's. As in... they don't fit, you are wearing them wrong and the BAND needs to fit properly and the straps need to be properly adjusted.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sun, July 8, 2007 - 9:56 AMIt is TOTALLY in the band ... and the thing is... once to rig this bra up, the choli will act as MORE support, keeping the bra in place and securing the lower back portion more. -
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Sun, July 8, 2007 - 12:53 PMVery clever, Miss Boo!! This goes on my project list.
I would just add that you can buy boning in a fabric store, so you don't have to sacrifice a cheap bra.
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Sun, July 8, 2007 - 1:20 PMWhat a great idea! I think you really came up with something here. You're going to make a lot of people very happy. -
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Sun, July 8, 2007 - 1:42 PMI hope I do make some ladies happy. I know how frustrating and upsetting the whole backless choli thing can be for those of us with larger chests. I just want other ladies to be able to wear the same stuff, and feel GOOD about it. Dance is about feeling good... and why bother if your costuming makes you feel like a schlump, ya know??
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Sun, July 8, 2007 - 12:53 PMWow, the visual looks great! I mean to have this perfected before Tribal Quest! Thanks you so much1
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sun, July 8, 2007 - 1:38 PMI put up 2 other shorts ... so you ladies can see how much support there is in the front and sides :)
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Sun, July 8, 2007 - 5:07 PMOh, I love it! I tried replacing the back strap of a bra with ribbon, but it didn't work right so I just abandoned it. The boning solution is sheer genius! PS You can buy plastic boning in fabric stores, as well as boning tape (is that the term?) to cover it, so may not be necessary to chop up another bra just to pull out the boning.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Mon, July 9, 2007 - 2:39 AMGreat job! I'm gonna tell my girls about this one!
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Mon, July 9, 2007 - 7:08 AMWhat a great idea!! I too have this problem. As of now I do not own any backless cholis, but now........I think i'll get brave and try it! Youv'e inspired me!
Thank You!!
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Mon, July 9, 2007 - 10:25 AMThose little bits of boning are called bra stays and they are really cheap. I usually buy them in white cotton (in packs of 100) and dye them as I need them. Or just color them with a sharpie if needed. Check ebay or ask at your local fabric store for bra stays, and you won't have to fiddle with sewing end caps on boning or sacrifing an entire bra. -
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Mon, July 9, 2007 - 2:05 PMOne thing that I have noticed about the Flying Skirts choli's (I am a 40 D) is that the XL choli is about the same size around the body as the Large. The only difference is that the cups are bigger, which, for me, means less support. I have performed in two black cholis and it was OK. I would have preferred a bra, but I could get by because the cholis were black.
My current challenge is a white Flying Skirts choli for a white costume I wear with my troupe. People, let me tell you, its like a wet t-shirt contest without the water. There is NO WAY I can get away with wearing it alone. I bought a nice white cotton bra and I am totally going to sew it into my choli using Miss Boo's directions. Thanks Miss Boo! -
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Mon, July 9, 2007 - 2:14 PMYou might consider a nune of flesh colored bra that won't show through so much. -
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Mon, July 9, 2007 - 2:15 PMHello, it would help if I could spell! A nude or flesh colored bra that wouldn't through so much.
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Mon, July 9, 2007 - 10:18 PMYou are so very, very welcome!!! :)
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sun, September 2, 2007 - 11:08 AMI'm SO GLAD this is working out for so many of you!!! Yay!!!! :) :) :)
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Wed, July 18, 2007 - 6:07 PMI just wanted to let you ladies know that this bra-contraption of mine, also works under the 'drop sleeve' choli creation that Gwen of Flying Skirts makes. I just got my first black velvet drop sleeve choli.... and it fits perfect with the bra!
Wooo hoo!!!!! :) :)
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Mon, August 20, 2007 - 4:24 PMOk, just to get this straight in my head...
cut back strap off bra right where the shoulder straps meet the back strap...
add boning of some fashion for support (to keep the side & back straps from collapsing?) at this same place...
add ribbons to each side...
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Sun, September 2, 2007 - 11:08 AMI have an actual tutorial up for the one I made ... did you see it?
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Mon, August 20, 2007 - 8:00 PMI'm liking this idea of simply sewing cups into a choli... I'm a 32i. Does anyone know of any websites that just sell cups? I could've sworn I came across one at one point in my internetting. Maybe I just dreamed it!
I'm working on starting up a tribal fusion wardrobe, and would die for at least one piece that isn't a straight bra. The only bra I own that's actually in my size cost me $400, noooo way am I'm chopping that puppy up anytime soon. I love lurking and getting more ideas into my head. -
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Re: Big Busted Backless Choli Dilemma (re-visited)
Mon, August 20, 2007 - 10:27 PMThe only place I remember was Sugar Petals, but I think they only went up to a DD.
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