Someone tipped me off so I checked out 'Peacock Moon' www.peacockmoons.com/page/pa...7783.htm
Almost the entire page of Skirt images was taken from our website www.Tribalbazaar.com
also so have many of the Tribal pant pics. i haven't even gone thru the whole site yet.
There is no email contact only a Phone #.
Does anyone know them, or are they by chance on Tribe?
If they mistakenly thought they were stock photos, I can understand, but IF they stole the images, i hope they would be ethical enough to remove them.
(yes, we are going to start watermarking or locking our images, but we have hundreds and it will take some time.)
Almost the entire page of Skirt images was taken from our website www.Tribalbazaar.com
also so have many of the Tribal pant pics. i haven't even gone thru the whole site yet.
There is no email contact only a Phone #.
Does anyone know them, or are they by chance on Tribe?
If they mistakenly thought they were stock photos, I can understand, but IF they stole the images, i hope they would be ethical enough to remove them.
(yes, we are going to start watermarking or locking our images, but we have hundreds and it will take some time.)
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Re: Image Stealing
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 2:47 PMwww.daycarefurnituredirect.com/pa...htm
There is an email address on this site, which the other site claims to be a division of. It's definetly image stealing and that is a shame. Hope you get this resolved quickly. I compaired 2 photos side by side, creases folds, everything is the same, no way to deny that.
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 2:51 PMso how to do that watermark so noone steals your pics???
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 3:56 PMI emailed 'Daycare furniture' about it and will see what happens. If they don't respond or take them down, I'll get stronger.
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 3:21 PMThat bites. I did a transparent overlay in my graphics program and it's the exact same images, right down to the pixels.I hope you get this straightened out. Good Luck! -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 3:51 PMYeah, they didn't even try to disguiss it. Those skirts are pain to shoot, but I did my own. I didn't take anyone elses.
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:00 PMMy troupe tried to order from them a few months back and no one ever called us back about placing an order. Looks like we lucked out! -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:18 PMThat bites. I hope you get a quick resolution.
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Re: Image Stealing
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:55 PMYopu can lookup any web site at:
Networksolutions.com - WHOIS Search
www.networksolutions.com/whois...c:-KlL
This is what a search on peacockmoons.com returned (see below). I would send an email to the domain owner and or call him/her directly.
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Joey Thomas
4725 N. Cobblestone Street
Wichita, KS 67204
US
Email: peacockmoons@hotmail.com
Registrar Name....: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: www.register.com
Domain Name: peacockmoons.com
Created on..............: Thu, Apr 26, 2007
Expires on..............: Sun, Apr 26, 2009
Record last updated on..: Thu, Apr 24, 2008
Administrative Contact:
Joey Thomas
4725 N. Cobblestone Street
Wichita, KS 67204
US
Phone: +1.3169937901
Email: peacockmoons@hotmail.com
Technical Contact:
Registercom
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: +1.9027492701
Email: domainregistrar@register.com
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Re: Image Stealing
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 5:14 PMOh, goodness...I'd seen the bloomer pants posted here on tribe and remember that very same picture...I remember wishing so much that I could afford some, they're so cute...
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 8:16 PMAw man that sucks.
You should check to see if they copied the photos or if they are hot linking. If they are hot linking they are not only steeling your photos but also your bandwithd.
But if they are hotlinking there is an easy solution. Just re-name the dirctory that you photos are in or even sneekeyer you could replace the photos in your photo folder with a banner saying something like "these images were stollen from www.your website.com for good quality belly dance supplys and ethical service please come see us" this might at least get the wind up them untill they realise. -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 8:44 PMWow, I've never even heard of Hotlinking.
How do you find out if they are? (I'm sure learning a lot from all this.) -
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 9:06 PMA hotlink is just the url that you post to lead you to another site or page...the same thing you posted to show the site that had stolen your images and the link to your page...you can change the name of the link, once you have it copied to post...make it whatever you want it to be...I forget exactly how to do it, but I'll ask my sweetheart...he's a programmer and makes up funny little phrases for his posts, lots of times...
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 6:15 AMYasemin -- I double-checked for you, and they're not hotlinking to your site for the images -- they've downloaded them & they are on their own server. (basically a "hotlink" means that instead of saving an image to their own server, they're just linking back to your image, and like was said above, therefore stealing your bandwidth).
The easiest way to check to see if someone is hotlinking to your site is to go to their webpage, select "View Source" - which will bring up the HTML code for that page in a Notepad file - then do a "Find" search for "tribalbazaar" or whatever your website name is. If it's in there, you can see if they're linking straight back to your images on your server & then, like they said either move them or replace them with something else. Keep in mind that if you were to move them or replace them with something else, this would also affect those same images on your *own* site.
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 7:06 AMI stopped by to offer the "hotlink swap" suggestion, but with content more along the lines of not-safe-for-work. ;)
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 9:05 AMThey are on eBay as well...they might be easier to contact through that venue. You also might could "report" the image issue to ebay, since they have pretty much the same pics on that space.
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 12:00 PMHi Yasemin..
If you have photoshop you should be able to watermark there. I have photoshop 7 and under "filter" there is "digimark". Hope that helps. I haven't tried it myself, but it might be a good idea. -
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 1:01 PMI'm on their eBay site and they only have a few things up, but it is ironic that the few things they have up have their own stamp on it. Why would they go through trouble of stamping their own images so that no one else can steal them when they are in turn stealing from others? Very bad. The photos they have up now are from our supplier. The suppliers are ok with the people they supply using their images. In fact one of the pictures is of our supplier herself. I don't know how she feels about that. Funny they didn't take these pics either but are being sure to protect them from being copied. Hmmph. They must have removed all of Yasemin's pics already. I didn't see them. -
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 1:03 PMHa! and they are asking for more trouble by calling their 25 yard fluffy skirt a "Flying Skirt". Should someone alert Flying Skirts next? What a pot of trouble these ppl are getting into. Sheesh. -
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 1:05 PMWell, all Yasemin's pics are gone. They took them down. It is pretty hard to take pics of your own inventory when you don't even have it in stock I guess. Hence scanning the catalog. Oh well, case closed. -
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 1:23 PMThat's good. I did email them, but didn't get a reply.
i have an old version of Photoshop but safeguarding our images is high on the list of things to do. I'll check to see if it has a Digimark feature.
It is ironic that they watermark their own stuff.
I talked to the Skirt supplier, and she was pretty mad as she hadn't given them permission to scan the catalog. i know some suppliers have a library of images that you can use ~if you ask them~ but it the case this time.
I asked about the pants since ours were a custom order and no, they don't carry them, so the photo is misleading.
Thanks everyone for all the Tech advice!!
I hope other vendors will be alerted to the fact that this happens, and seems to happen more frequently niow, and take steps to protect their own work. -
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Wed, May 14, 2008 - 5:47 PMjust to lyk
I tried it with infran view
and I can apply text over my pics
people.tribe.net/erikaschi...4f6dc6519f
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Re: Image Stealing
Thu, May 15, 2008 - 4:25 PMThe skirts are still there, on the skirt collage: www.peacockmoons.com/catalog...4827.htm
I did the comparison and they're still the same except for the red one..... -
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 5:53 PMWow! and they are all watermarked on top of that! With HER name! What is she thinking? Does she not get it?!?! -
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 6:17 PM(Sigh) Thanks for letting me know.
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Thu, May 15, 2008 - 9:50 PMCan you report online fraud to the Better Business Bureau? Cuz if you can, I'd do it...was bad enough that she was using the pics, in the first place...but using them and putting watermarks on them is even worse!!!
Hmmm...I've got a friend that has a very 'official' sounding voice and has gotten results for me when I needed it before...maybe I should get him to call and pretend he's your lawyer...he'd probably do it...he loves putting the fear of the gods into people...*wicked giggle* -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 6:50 AMCareful tho, when I was younger I did the "pretend to be a lawyer to get results" thing and I ended up with a letter from the Bar Association threatening me with legal action and possibly jail time for doing it. Scared the sh*t out of me. Apparently I did it to the best friend of a lawyer. :P
I read something about copyrighting websites. Does anyone know anything about that? A lot of my images are from my vendors and are used with permission from them (stock photos and such) but as I develop my site more I would like to protect not only the ones I have taken, but the entire thing. I mean, I even changed the colors of my site because it looked too close to one of my previously existing competitors. I can't expect that of others who don't know I exist but at least I can protect something. -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 8:29 AMThe important is not to have stolen the soul in the pouch. when dancin, one;s soul stays safe as the heart of davy Jones in a locker. lulu.com/astrology & RTRR
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 7:06 PM*giggle*...oh, believe me, he knows just what to and not to say...never comes right out and says he's a lawyer...will say things like, 'I represent so-and-so...', so it never crosses the line...he's got a Masters degree in psychology and communications...it's really funny to hear him give someone hell...and oh, so gratifying...*wicked giggle*
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 8:23 PMHow to copyright pictures: www.copyright.gov/register/visual.html -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 6:13 PMi'm not sure if this is one of your pictures but if you look at the photo of the green skirt at the bottom of the page there has obviously been some warter mark or texed, photo shoped(badly) Out.
This is a good reminder that if you are going to do water marks they need to go across a peice of the actually photo of the person rather than just the back ground or they are too easy to edit out. -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 6:13 PMsorry i was refering to this page www.peacockmoons.com/catalog...4827.htm -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 7:41 PMThat one of the green skirt is a catalogue image. But the collage of Yasemin's skirts has not been removed, but instead has been redone. The images were croped so that mainly the colors are showing, but not the full skirt image. It is still very obvious. And she watermarked the heck out of Yasemin's images with her own watermark. Quite an insult as Yasemin has contacted her and asked her to take this down. She is being pretty insistant. The thing with this vendor is she does not have these things in stock, therefore she cannot take her own pictures. She has to rely on stealing pictures or scanning the catalogue. She orders from the supplier as she gets orders herself. She has a two week shipping time since she orders from the suppliers as she recieves orders. -
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Sun, May 18, 2008 - 9:53 PMThey are still recognisable. If she was going to crop them she could have cut it down so it's just a color swatch, but they are obviously my pictures. Does she not have a clue as to what this can do to her reputaion?? i wouldn't buy from someone who steals.
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 9:46 AMI also won't be buying from thieves. When it's time for me to get fluffy skirts, I'm def buying from you or other reputable sellers. Tribe is pretty revealing of who is and who isn't.
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