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I try to give my advanced students as many performance ops as possible. I like a cohesive, though not uniform look. They often ask me what costume pieces are necessary. I've been trying to come up with a list that is not overwhelming but allows for maximum versatility.
So, I'm asking what do you folks consider essential for a dancers wardrobe?
My list is something like;
full black skirt
black choli
pantaloons
long fringe belt
tassel belt
triangle belt (fringed or tassels)
jewelry, jewelry, jewelry
highly recommended, yet still optional pieces:
coin bra
kuchi-esque coin belt
banjara-esque choli
full colored skirt
yarn belt
so, more? less? advice please.
~Nancy
So, I'm asking what do you folks consider essential for a dancers wardrobe?
My list is something like;
full black skirt
black choli
pantaloons
long fringe belt
tassel belt
triangle belt (fringed or tassels)
jewelry, jewelry, jewelry
highly recommended, yet still optional pieces:
coin bra
kuchi-esque coin belt
banjara-esque choli
full colored skirt
yarn belt
so, more? less? advice please.
~Nancy
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Re: Costume Essentials
Thu, June 11, 2009 - 9:05 AMShoes for those venues where it's yucky or unsafe NOT to have them
corset style vests(new item that our troupe uses on really hot days in venues where just a coin bra isn't appropriate)
Different items for doing up your hair (jewelry pieces, headbands, cowie falls, hair falls, feathers, flowers, etc)
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Thu, June 11, 2009 - 11:06 AMyes, definitely performance shoes...china flats work great and are cheap.
maybe some kind of underbust vest or wrappable top...especially if the decorated bra still has the manufactured straps and closure at the back.
also basic headdress stuff...a head scarf, a decorated headband, flowers etc...
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Thu, June 11, 2009 - 1:57 PM
I enjoy seeing lots of color in Tribal Troupes.
I jump for Joy when someone orders a colored skirt from me... =) LOL
and I third the shoes! sandals or china flats for venues with hot or yucky or whatever floors.
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Tue, June 16, 2009 - 3:16 PMI dig color too. Just, a few early performances we had neons mixed with pastels, mixed with calico combos---no cohesion at all. We figured out pretty quick that everyone had a black skirt and at least a black tank---so, the base costume was born and folks accessorized however they wanted. Now we're moving toward a slightly more together look and want to avoid the some wearing yarn and some wearing shiny coin sashes.
But I hear ya! Everyone in a colored skirt would be super groovy.
And good suggestions about the shoes!!!!!!!!
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Re: Costume Essentials
Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:19 AMYes I love to see color in Tribal costuming!
As for basics, it depends on how unified the troupe wants to look. Just one or two identical things can pull really dissimilar outfits together into a cohesive whole. For example, if everyone wore skirt, pants and top in the same color, no matter what the style. Or if everyone wears the same hip wrap and top, then personalizes with their own skirt, pants and maybe bra.
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Fri, June 12, 2009 - 10:52 AMI actually think that's a pretty long list for just the basics :), but I guess it depends on how many performances/how much variety of costumes you want. My personal list of *absolute* basics would be:
pantaloons,
tiered skirt,
choli;
*something* for hips (tassel belt or fringe belt or even just layers of triangle shawls);
some kind of jewelry, and
something for the head/hair (jewelry, scarf, flowers, whatever).
Coin bra strongly recommended but not absolutely necessary (especially if the choli is fancy or decorated) Personally if the skirts are black I'd go with a coloured choli.
My old troupe had had a stock of basic items (pantaloons, skirts, turbans, a few cholis), that new dancers could borrow to start out with. This made it easy and quick to get a cohesive look, leaving it up to the individual to hunt down jewelry and scarves and stuff, although most of us made our own stuff eventually. It does of course require an investment of troupe money and there is the danger of items not getting returned sometimes.
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Wed, June 17, 2009 - 7:39 AMThe jewelry one gets me, personally, assuming you mean tribal jewelry. I've been performing for a year and a half and *still* don't have much in the way of tribal jewelry. It's really, really expensive and a challenge to find 1) what you like 2) in a size that works for you.
I'd really like to see alternatives presented to dancers in troupes just starting out. I'm a soloist, so I've just made bangles cuffs with memory wire, Czech beads, and Swarovski accents. I can make a pair of whatever for under $10. It's not *tribal* but I won't bankrupt myself on them. I guess my opinion on pushing tribal jewelry is that it sends the message that the look is more important than the dancing (*huge* pet peeve of mine. I've met many a "belly dancer" who thinks she raqs because she's amassed a few grand in costuming). Again, I may just be sensitive to it. I just assume it'll take me many, many years to accumulate the tribal jewelry of more seasoned dancers.
Aside from me getting on a bit of a soapbox... I think the list is good. Very basic with some versatility in the belts (I'd guess you encourage different color/fabric pantaloons?). I'd probably rank a color skirt/coin bra a bit higher. As in, optional but, if you're serious, you should be looking into this. I'd put jewelry down there, too, myself. -
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Wed, June 17, 2009 - 7:50 AMEbay is a wonderful place to find good tribal jewelry without paying an arm and leg. One way I amassed my collection was to check eBay ... buy from dancers updating THEIR collections ... become friends with vendors of the lovelies to get good prices or at least their help looking for special items ... and patience. Some of us have collected for years and like having a cohesive look, but I add leather, spikey stuff, and weird thrift store finds into the mix for my own special look.
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Wed, June 17, 2009 - 8:14 AMhaha...Desdemona, I do feel your pain...I've only recently gotten a couple real 'tribal' looking pieces of jewelry...and that was a trade with a friend for some costuming pieces that she liked of mine and that I never really wear...
There is so much 'stuff' that can be put together to get a nice, tribal look...I have baubles and beads that I've been saving for years, never knowing, 'now, why am I saving this broken piece of jewelry?', but now have discovered exactly why...I think it's the unique and bold look that really makes something fall in with a 'tribal' look, so there are any number of ways to pull it off...without having to spend a fortune at the markets or online to actually acquire said look...
Okay...subject was 'basics'...sounds pretty good to me, so far...I'm all good with those!
**from the slightly wonky, surely nutty, fellow dance addict that's a bit stoned on pain killers...please forgive my rambles***
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Wed, June 17, 2009 - 11:39 AMRe: tribal jewelry
Check out flea markets, garage sales, auctions, etc. You never know when someone has had some great piece in her collection for ages with no idea that bellydancers – or anyone, actually – would be interested in it. You may need to take it off its existing chain and put on a ribbon or something to make it appear "more tribal" but that's pretty darn easy to do.
Heck, I recently found a great ankle bracelet at a friend's house. It was in his mom's "craft basket", which generally means "available to anyone who wants to raid it for parts." I had him ask her about it and she said, "If she wants that for dancing, she can have it."
Lots of people who don't know bellydance buy stuff that's "pretty" and then don't really know how to use it later. -
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Wed, June 17, 2009 - 12:42 PMThat's the best stuff, I've used necklaces as belly drapes. Earrings as embellishments, you name it, I've done it...well...probably not everything...I'm still inventing : )
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Re: Costume Essentials
Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:13 AMYeah lots of dancers love the kuchi stuff, including me, but "Tribal Jewelry" does NOT automatically mean "Kuchi Jewelry".
Check your local thrift stores, flea markets, garage sales, dollar stores, outlet stores and import shops for jewelry. Look for large, chunky pieces, particularly African or African-inspired pieces. -
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Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:51 AMHi Helen, I would agree with you. Have you seen Masha Archer's jewelry line? To me, it is very tribal looking but not kuchi at all. Well, there is one necklace in her line that has coins and is totally fab! -
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Fri, June 19, 2009 - 11:25 AMMasha's jewelry would certainly take one to a very Tribal place--at least dance-evolution-wise
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Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:49 AMI am one of those people who is slowly making the transition to ATS. If I was in someone's troupe, it would not be unreasonable for them to require me to have, as the basic starting point:
black 10 yard skirt
choli (I'd not quibble if they said a real backless choli versus a 1/2 top type)
pantaloons (absolutely no melo-type pants but might include ruffled or tiered leg varieties)
hip adornments - including something with fringe and something with tassels
decorated bra (could be simple at first)
jewelry (could be simple at first but piled on)
hair decoration fixins -- for both turban and hair garden
makeup for tribal performance face
I started buying costume pieces but have gotten to making them. The list above is not terribly expensive if made, except I've not made a choli yet.
The other thing is if these things were required and I didn't know how to do/make, assistance from the more experienced members would probably be expected, rather than letting me flounder. Looking at the OP, it seems my list is very similar to Nancy's list.
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Fri, June 19, 2009 - 7:14 PMI love the colorful look and would probably say something like "black or colored tiers skirt - no neon or pastel. If black, use colored tassel belt or non-cab style hip scarf".
As for jewelry:
I've found great things at second hand stores, Cost Plus, etc. I have some real stuff I bought at crazy discounted prices because of breakage, etc, which I then repaired. I mix the few "real" pieces I have with strands of large stones, flea market finds, etc.
My favorite easy "tribal" jewelry, strange but true, isn't even jewelry. I have some AWESOME "tribal" pieces I made from old furniature brasses. Yes, pieces of key plates, door pulls, etc. scavenged or bought from antique store "rummage bins". Obviously not authentic tribal but my budget doesn't allow for that. Every time I show up at class or troupe rehersal wearing one, people comment, ask me where I hot it and usually want to know what it's tribal origin is! My favorite is a brass key plate which looks vaguely Tuareg and reminds everyone of a Hand of Fatima. $3-5 for the brass and a leather cord/thong. -
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Fri, June 19, 2009 - 7:25 PMNatalia, do you have pictures? Your coversions sound really, really interesting!
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Mon, June 22, 2009 - 1:04 PMNancy -
In order to make things look cohesive but not necessarily identical, our troupe leader has us try and match silhouettes. Basically, we can wear whatever we want to as long as if we all lined up, our shadows would look pretty similar. That tends to make things look more put-together without totally throwing out individual style and comfort. That way, someone who maybe isn't totally comfy wearing a midriff-showing choli could still wear a tunic as long as it stil has the same shape as everyone else.
Just an idea from experience! :D
I also love the little corset vests. Those are SO AWESOME and so comfortable.
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Mon, June 22, 2009 - 1:21 PMWe all wear them, but some wear long tunics under them to cover bellies or long sleeved peasant blouses long or short or wrap tops to cover what Mira Betz calls "bingo arms".
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Re: Costume Essentials
Tue, June 23, 2009 - 7:30 AMThose corsety-tie up vests are suh-weet! I really dig them.
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