pantaloons: the conundrum

topic posted Mon, April 7, 2008 - 7:08 PM by  Nicole
Okay, so I'm getting ready to make a new pair of pantaloons. I made one a while back and I closed the crotch in case I want to wear them on their own, but when I wear them with a skirt, it's a nightmare trying to go to the bathroom.

So who leaves it open? Who closes it? How do you deal with the issues that surround either choice? Can anyone say whether some type of snap or something might solve the problem (coverage plus easy access)? *giggle* HELP!
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Nicole
Baton Rouge
  • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

    Mon, April 7, 2008 - 7:56 PM
    wow, i've never heard of not closing the crotch...
    i've only ever had elastic waist pantaloons and they are totally easy for going to the bathroom. just gather everything up in your skirt and yank 'em down.
    i'd be more afraid having open-crotch pantaloons and making sure not to pee on the fabric LOL
    but like you said, some kind of snap or velco might be an option....but having to fiddle with that while keeping your skirt bundled might be a task. with the elastic waist you can just pull them down and up with one hand usually~ :P
  • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

    Mon, April 7, 2008 - 8:58 PM
    I love my open crotch pantaloons =)

    air conditioning! WHEE!

    but... if they are full enough, you dont need to close the crotch. the Folkwear FCBD pattern is all squares and stuff, and it's open in the crotch... =)
    • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

      Tue, April 8, 2008 - 4:48 AM
      I closed both of mine... I didn't have the cojones to wear them open... (no joke intended)... I was a newer dancer and I like doing stuff on the floor and since I haven't been into ATS much wearing both skirt and monsterloons hasen't really happend for me giving me that confidence of 'both' skirt and pants sooooo I never was concerned about it. I think the next set I might leave open.... but that has some stretch/give to it so it might be a littl easier to manipulate when it comes time to tap a kidney.
      • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

        Tue, April 8, 2008 - 8:18 AM
        I only have elastic pantaloons and swear by them :) Also, my crotches are open in most of them. I don't use it for ease of toilet usage (again, elastic rocks) but you would be amazed at the air circulation you get and the difference it makes in hot summer Alabama days.

        Elastic for easy peeing
        open crotch for air conditioning
        • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

          Tue, April 8, 2008 - 9:30 AM
          Hmmmmm...I may have to try making both and see which one works best for me. The air conditioning would be a good thing here in southern Louisiana!

          How many yards would you say they need to be made of to be safe wearing them minus a skirt with an open crotch?
  • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

    Tue, April 8, 2008 - 2:26 PM
    So far all the online patterns don't say anything about an open crotch area. Do you just not sew the 2 pieces together at the crotch or just a part of the way down the front and back.. Confused....

    Melissa
    • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

      Tue, April 8, 2008 - 2:30 PM
      If you have a yoke on your pantaloons, generally you just don't sew the crotch at all. So it is split from the bottom of the yoke at the front to the bottom of the yoke in the back. If you don't have a yoke, sure your best judgement.
    • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

      Wed, April 9, 2008 - 4:59 AM
      The way I was taught is that when you do the crotch with your two rectangles of fabric you put your hand on the side where the crotch would go. draw an L around it and a reverse L for the other side. then they match up and you have an L shape that fits your body... ( the top longer part of the L is the rise from your naval area down to hair line the horizontal part is the part that runs under your bits to the back. the reverse would be the crack line and connect underneath. If that makes ANY sense at all.

      now that's the no brainer way to do it... there are other ways measureing the rise with a piece of string and a pencil also the way of using jeans and measuring that rise....

      if I was going to leave the crotch open I'd probably wack out the two L shapes but round it out more and tack down the edges to prevent excessive chafage with threads coming off and what not... but that is half a personal problem with body shape and how pants generally fit my particular personage.

      =)
    • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

      Wed, April 9, 2008 - 8:33 AM
      There are two ways to make pantaloons: 1. curved crotch seam (like regular pants/trousers); 2. rectangular construction with or without crotch gusset.

      I've seen the open crotch variety only with the rectangular construction method. Each leg is a simple rectangle. Lower on the leg, the edges join together to form the inseam, while near the top they join with the other leg to form the centre front and centre back seams. In order to get the flat fabric around a 3D body, there needs to be some shape to the crotch. This is where you either leave it open or put in a crotch gusset.

      I did a pair with a crotch gusset and you don't notice the gusset when they're on (people.tribe.net/zena/phot...d24c28f5).
  • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

    Thu, April 10, 2008 - 4:46 AM
    I am a Civil War reenactor as well as a bellydancer (Interesting mix, huh?) and the period correct style for the 1860's is open crotch bloomers. When you are wearing a big ol' hoop skirt and have to use the port-a-potty. . .the open crotch is a life-saver! I have started to wear my CW bloomers instead of a slip when I wear a skirt in "everyday life". . .that's how comfortable and practical they are! I haven't worn them under my bellydance skirts yet, but that's just a matter of time!
  • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

    Sat, April 12, 2008 - 8:43 AM
    i love my open-crotch knickers! i like to wear them under my dresses in the summer. they're knee-length and made out of a very light cotton batique, so i find they're better at keeping you cool and dry then not wearing them at all!
  • Re: pantaloons: the conundrum

    Sun, April 13, 2008 - 11:29 AM
    Mine are all closed crotch with elastic waists.

    Personally, I would leave an open crotch only with very, very super full pantaloons. I wouldn't try it with "ordinary" pantaloons.

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