Ok, sooooo, anyone who really knows me knows how insanely cheap I am (yeah, I freely admit it =). I would love to get a 25 yard skirt but they are just too expensive right now. However, I have found some pretty cool flamenco/circle skirts that are a fraction of what a 25 yarder costs (lolz, "yarder"...). They seem to have the right kind of flare, just not as much extra fluff. So my crafty mind is thinking what if I got two flamenco's and wore them over each other? It seems this way you would have kind of the same look and would still be able to wear them in different ways as you would a 25 yarder (i.e. bustling it, gathering it at the sides, etc.) .
Has anyone tried this or have any thoughts on how you think it would turn out?
Has anyone tried this or have any thoughts on how you think it would turn out?
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 8:12 PMDepending on how "cheap" your skirts are, wouldnt it be just as cheap to buy one 25 yard skirt, than 2 cheapie skirts?
though... Most of the circle with the ruffle skirts are pretty cool...
Where did you find skirts so cheap =) -
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 7:51 AMWhy, ebay of course of course =D I found this seller from India: cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll
Plus, I'm thinkin' then you could layer two different colors! So when you tucked in parts of the top skirt it would ruffle and then you could see a peek of the color underneath.
I've seen some other skirts for around $20 that have patterns and such, so for like $25 it seems you could make a really kick ass skirt. -
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 8:09 AMThat listing says that the skirt's hem is only 150 inches - which translates to a little over 4 yards. That's not going to be nearly enough to do any sort of skirt work. And I don't even know if you're going to be able to tuck it all that well either, to be honest. I think my Ren Faire skirt is about 5 yards, and I have trouble keeping it tucked it sometimes.
If you're doing any sort of skirt work, 10 yards is a minimum, but most people will tell you 12 or 15. 25 is gorgeous, but can be too much for some people to deal with. To get a 12-yarder out of those, you'd have to buy 3 of them & put them together, and at that price you're better off just buying one out-right. -
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 12:41 PMYup Bellatrix is right!
you arent going to be able to tuck or do any type of skirt work with these.
I recomend just spending the cash and getting one 12-15 yard skirt.
For two of those skirts plus shipping, you can find one on ebay or another website for the same price...
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Wed, May 28, 2008 - 3:30 AMHmm, their feedback looks a little low to me, although the description seems to have been quite carefully written.
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 7:04 PMI have one of those skirts. It's no good on the tucking thing, the hem is really very narrow, and the fabric is very cheap. There is no ruffling if you try to tuck it, it just hangs strangely. Oh and them saying the waistband stretches to 42" is insanely generous.
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Sat, May 24, 2008 - 9:17 AMI have a couple of similar skirts from a different seller. They were only 99 cents each, and the seller had a shipping deal so shipping per skirt was only $2. The elastic is for a small waist, the hems are tiny and the skirts are semi-sheer.
I used them for a teenager's costume, layering one over the other. We bustled up the upper skirt and basted the bustle in place, the fabric was too slippery to stay tucked. Add a pair of harem pants and a top, both also 99 cents each + $2 shipping, and she had everything except a hip wrap for under $10 total.
It was fine for a kid at a hafla and would be ok for a beginner student recital.
The problem with full skirts is that the require a lot of material, and a lot of cheap material still adds up. -
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Sun, May 25, 2008 - 3:35 PMIt depends on what you want to do with the skirt. If you're looking to do lots of flounces or movement at arm's length for something like a Spanish fusion dance, the 25-yard skirt is best.
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 11:09 AMOR, you can always borrow one of my 25 yarders! :) -
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Wed, May 21, 2008 - 12:42 PMhehe oh i knew that's a possibility, but I was just trying to be crafty heh. well Bellatrix does have a convincing argument! Oh well it was a neat idea for a little while =) -
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 12:52 PMYeah, I have a couple of these skirts and you can't do much with them. They are chiffon type material. You won't be able to tuck them. Maybe if you get two or three of the same color, take them apart and sew together, you might be able to work something out. You can also make your own. It will be cheaper but time consuming. :)
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Tue, May 27, 2008 - 12:26 PMHow much does the seamstress earn for making a skirt that costs $10 or less new? Can it be a living wage? -
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Tue, May 27, 2008 - 1:44 PM>>Can it be a living wage?
No way on god's green earth...
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Tue, May 27, 2008 - 8:29 PMThey can charge under $10 because they are paying people $.05 a day
I charge at the LOW end of being a seamstress... 10-12 an hour for labor, and suppies cost extra...
Though, I figure that if you want to pay for low quality items, and replace them over and over, please feel free.
I would rather spend a few more dollars and get a high quality item that I know will fit, and is well made. -
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Thu, May 29, 2008 - 12:25 AMOff topic rant follows:
Unfortunately, the reality is that if people in India were to start charging more - what you would consider a living wage - then suppliers will simply take their business to China, or Indonesia, or Thailand, or somewhere in Africa etc. so as not to cut into their profit margins. As long as there are people somewhere who are willing to work for a tiny wage, the business will continue to boom.
I get so annoyed when i see western politicians on TV talking about how we must "end child labour". They seem to have no appreciation of the fact that if these children didn't work (for example, in Indian clothing factories) they would simply starve to death, as their parents are not making enough money to feed a family. If the West really wants to make a difference in the lives of the poor in the East and Africa, how about removing trade barriers, lowering or eliminating import tarrifs, cutting internal agricultural subsidies etc. and engage in a truly free and open market system.
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Thu, May 29, 2008 - 11:29 AMThere is also something to be said, however, for (a) the responsibility of the consumer - buying a cheaper item isn't always better, and (b) raising the minimum wage in THIS country so that most consumers don't feel they have to always go for the lowest possible price tag on everything in order to just make it by.
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Thu, May 29, 2008 - 7:57 PM
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Thu, May 29, 2008 - 8:02 PMAmy, yes... this very subject was brought up in Economics. With our western do goody so and so interpretations. ...The problem is, many people judge other cultures with our standards. Or people judge others living conditions by their own level of comfort.
They work for extremely low wages. Point is...what are their options? It is a cold hearted reality.
Now on another off topic topic, as far as being a vendor in America, my retail business is my sole source of income. I am a single mother. I do not have family to support me. So when I see other vendors who sell the exact same thing and they are undercutting the market so severely that there is very little profit margin I get steamed. What are they doing? These are wonderful, high quality products and they are causing the values to depreciate to where one cannot make a living off these things. And this is really unnecessary. So while this is good for you dancers who want to save big bucks, it causes some people to have a difficult time to make ends meet. My fault for choosing this lot in life, eh? But I will plug on. So it is ironic that people will complain about low wages in other countries, but then seek the absolute rock bottom alternatives from American vendors. Yes, off topic, but a pet peeve of mine as well.
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Thu, May 29, 2008 - 7:18 PMHey there,
Am currently selling off my bellydance stash.....I have three skirts, big fluffy ones.........two from We3 (I think they call them
"ultimate skirts") one is what I believe they called "spice", and the other is a buttery gold color. Also I have one from Scarlet's Lounge thats burgundy/black tie dye with a coordinating veil thats also dyed same colors (but predominantly black) Message me and we'll see if we can't cut you a deal.....!!
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Re: Flamenco skirts VS. 25 yard skirts....
Tue, June 3, 2008 - 9:06 AMi got nice 25'ers on Tribe Nawaar. 90$ each and worth every penny. don't know where they were made, but at 90$, some money is going somewhere, i just pray someplace ethical. besides, the Lady in Charge e-mailed me directly in reply to queries. i would say go for that, or Flying Skirts, or Moon Dance, as they are all pretty comparable. (i went with Nawaar, for the length option. i have a 39" outseam!)
